Why is it parents think we can live off of less then $5/hour?
I understand financial sruggle! I just want to start by saying that. However, if someone is looking for someone with experience, light house keeping, travel, etc.. and ask to only pay 200/week for 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. Lately I've had to turn down a few people due to this issue. I hate to sound insensitive in anyway, but in my opinion if you're not willing to pay minimum wage at least, then they need to look to friends/family. I feel like I waste some of my time and effort applying to these jobs. I like to personalize my applications. And no they are not all up front about pay.
That's modern slavery conditions. Don't waste your time if you're firm diplomatically about your reciprocated expectations, walk away. You don't want to compromise yourself into poverty. You may state in your profile your rate is non-negotiable below a certain rate. That's another reason I screen them via a pre-interview by phone. If cheapies contact you, send a brief but polite response to decline and not lower your response rate. Best!
I would never tell someone not to have a child but clearly they can't afford a nanny.
1,000/week for a walk to school? No. Not even if you paid me minimum wage for a whole hour would it even be close to that! It would be $75/week at MOST! So to ask for more then $50/day ,when the day is 9 hours long, is not unreasonable!
Hello part of the problem is care.com for allowing these posts.There is no other site of jobs with these rediculous postings Including transportation here and there cleaning the house and pets in one whole posting for child care for $10 dollars...What a joke..
Well I understand how you feel. Income depends on where you live and which state. In California, Los Angeles, You need to get $15+/hr to survive. I don't work for less than $15/hr. We are experienced, educated, responsible and articulate and if the family is aware of having a good role model for their children, they would willingly pay the price. A housekeeper charges $10+/hr. We should respect ourselves and believe in our work. if we do, they will do as well.
I agree with you 100%. Because of that exact situation I did a ton of digging and found nannies are protected under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), they are entitled to be paid at least minimum wage for each hour worked. Plus overtime. Anytime someone wants to offer less than minimum wage I inform them that it's illegal and remind them that there are great home daycares that are more affordable. For people willing to pay the average rate for the area ($15/hourly 1 kid) or more, I dont charge overtime.
Oh lord that makes me so mad. We are in 2018! I had a mom telling me she used to get paid $3/hr to babysit, well i am sorry but I have college to pay and things are much more expensive now that they were 20/30yrs ago. I had a family paying me much less than what they were requiring me to do, including cleaning driving (at my own cost) cooking and taking care of children. I was definitely not appreciated. To be honest you should be getting at least $10/hr. It is a full time job not part time. I dont leave my house for less than $10/hr because that is the minimum salary.
i under stand and i will not mind
Paying less than minimum wage to a nanny is absolutely unacceptable and not legal, I would never accept a position for less than minimum wage. I also believe that a nanny is worth much more than minimum wage and that makes this childcare option NOT available to all families.
I use calculator provided byCare.com https://www.care.com/house-cle.... It gives you a base ratell and depending on your criteria, then you can apply discounts (and tell your potential client) if it's in the negotiating phase. After some attempts looking at other providers then eventually they may see your qualifications are worth the price.
Many families either aren't aware of the current rates or do not understand why you would get paid so much more for something they wish they could be home doing. If they are willing to discuss it try and take that time to educate them on the value of a nanny, personal budgeting, ect. and maybe they will change their mind. At the very least now they are informed and it may help the next person who comes along and applies!
I would suggest phone calls and directly ask them what their budget is. It is not fair for you to cut time and energy out to be offered a job and only to discover later that you cannot afford it. More than that, tell them why you think what you're requesting is a fair wage. Talk about your experience and education or the difficulties of caring for certain ages. It may help families realize they need to expand their nanny budget.
Discuss pay before you agree to an in person interview. Works for me. If they say they are not willing to pay at least YOUR minimum, on the books, tell them to find a day care.
Sometimes you just have to explain that this is your career and how you make your living. I would also add that this is their precious child. Is their care and well being not worth a living wage to their caregiver? Like anything else, you get what you pay for. When you are paid a living wage you can work relaxed and joyfully. You want to do your best and keep your job. When you are not paid a living wage, you work out of desperation and anxiety. Your worried all the time, you are tired in your mind and less alert. No child deserves a caregiver that is not focused on them and their well being. You deserve a living wage for the great and noble work you do.
Like any other profession you need to know how qualify you are for this job, if you have years of experience and if you are good in what you do. Set up an hourly rate and don't work for less than that.
I think some caregivers really can live off of less money and why not try to save money if you really need to. It can't hurt to start off low and work up accordingly. Other caregivers do it for the experience or the energy that a sweet baby can give off. It's healthy, fun and of course, others really need a higher salary which is also understandable.
I recently applied to a job and then realized after talking to the mother that she was only looking to pay 3.50/hr. Her reasoning was because she felt it was a fair amount compared to the cost she would spend on daycare. I think it comes down to a common misconception that babysitting/nannying/childcare is not "real work", does not require a degree, and therefore means that those workers shouldn't be paid the same as other professions. I see it coming from ignorance as well. There are big differences between sending a child to daycare and having someone to come and watch them at your own home. The job is not the same and does not mean they should be paid the same either.
that's very bad ... A good nanny job should be well paid.
Don't apply to anything that will not be in your best interest. There are plenty of teenagers that can interview for $5.00.
Sadly, a lot of people think of caregivers the same way that they think of stay-at-home Moms. "You're just doing xyz and I would love to be staying home and doing this" and that sort of thing. I've always found setting a bottom line to be beneficial- being honest about what you can afford to live off of and what not. Point out that the numbers here add up to less than $4.50 per hour, and then point out the alternatives for them. Be prepared to say no and walk. As an aside, I have only allowed being paid this little in extenuating circumstances from families that I have known for years and have always otherwise treated me fairly/like a member of the family. On these occasions, I was further compensated at a later date in some way shape or form. Low pay for any other reason is not a standard you want to set- for yourself or for the other caregivers around you (they will use how they treat you on how they treat others, trust me). We do this job because we love kids, not because it's easy, and we deserve to be treated with dignity.
If you are going to their house and acting as a nanny instead of a babysitter, than yes they should be paying you $8-10 an hour or about $300-400 a week. but if you are watching them at your own house than $150-200 a week is pretty standard. but at your house you can watch more than one kid which means more money. If you are watching at their house, you dont have room to make more money, therefor they should pay more because of that inconvenience it causes.
Thats very true. I applied for a special needs job that said it was paying 15-35 an hour that was a red flag for me that margin was to great. well I went on the interview anyway out of curiosity and the duties that were expected was a lot but I didn't mind a little hard work ( lifting toileting while she's in bed ;( ) the interview was long and at the end she said she was paying 11 an hour ! Had she said that in her job description I doubted that I would have went...please be honest about the pay and exception of the job!
I totally agree with you.
with salary you can not live in the United States.
Sometimes people accept pay at that rate as they are just trying to supplement their income. To be honest, it almost seems "fair" but only in some cases. By this, I am talking about the fact that someone with their own children might get to stay at home with their child rather than pay for childcare themselves and still be making money. If you think about the harsh reality, there are a lot of single parents out their working one job to make ends meet. If they only make $8/hour, what do you expect them to pay you? You could argue that they find something better but sometimes you just have to take what you can get in order to get your foot in the door somewhere. On the other hand, this might be someones full time job/career and they are looking for the maximum pay(even minimum wage). In that case, find the family that is willing to pay that. If less than $5/hour is not what you are looking for, scroll past that job and look for one that caters more to your needs.
My first nanny job I got paid $350/2 weeks. Yes...that little... After that experience I realized the only person that will make sure I am taken care of, is myself. I refuse to work unless I am getting paid $1.00 more than minimum wage. If a family isn't willing to provide that, then you do not need to work there. There are plenty of people who will pay above minimum wage for exceptional childcare.
Remember, you are a professional Nanny! I try to stick with a minimum of $15 an hour. Also, I have been a teacher for many years so I don't except being treated like just a babysitter. Chin up!
I agree - in most cases this is not nearly enough salary to take care of one child. There are several websites you can use: enter location, number of kids, your qualifications and experience, what other services they expect. for example, average for care of one child in my city is about $12.75/hour. I add on a little for my qualifications and experiences little more if there is more than one child, sometimes a little for gas money, etc. You MUST clear up this issue before you work even one shift for them!
Just like they have bills so do you. They can't pay bills without decent money and you can't either. Perhaps ther is someone that can do the work for less but if you can't DON'T.
I think that looking after children is a big responsibility and so I understand that it should be valued.
Some rich people feel if you pick up behind them you're less than and should take what they give. Sad but true. Stick to your rate and don't waiver. You're worth every penny.
Your business you have a rite to stipulate what your wanting from a job.And wages associated from it. Best of luck
It might seem like a little bit to us, but to them its a lot. On average, daycares charge around that same amount - some more, some less. It's not just about us living off of that amount, but them living off of that amount too. You always have to consider their side too.
Most of the time I think that we forget how much goes into care taking and all the in between. Personally on my account I have a minimum price and that is something to discuss from the very beginning. It is a sensitive subject because you don't want to come off as needy but the most professional way to handle jobs is to be up front with all the details including pay, and it is not bad to ask.
You can't control what other people say or how they feel. You can control how you feel and what you say. Politely decline and move on. Amy C
You can put in your applications what your standard rate is. You know what your care is worth! Whoever places the first numerical value sets the standard, so go ahead in your applications and let them know what your rate is. Is it $10/hr, and an additional $2/hr for each kid, or an extra $3/hr for transportation or cleaning? Decide what those values are worth to you and let families know upfront that's what you charge. Unfortunately, there's no way to weed out the people who are trying to pay $5/hr.
I wouldn't apply to any that say they're less than you desire. If they weren't up front and later decided to let you know it would be very low, I'd definitely stick up for yourself. Know you're worth! No one deserves less than minimum wage in my opinion. If the pay's lower than desired I usually just nicely tell them for example, "I'm sorry that just wouldn't be worth it to me." In my case, I also give examples as to why I deserve more. I share with them my extra qualifications. I'm CPR/First Aid Certified, I'm currently working on a degree in early education, I have multiple years of experience, I've worked in multiple state licensed daycares, and because I'm in the system I'm able to provide a current background check paper. Child care is a very rewarding job but is hard work. We all have are little extra qualifications! Know you're worth!
i would take the offer only for a short period of time
I made $5.10 per hour back in the early 90's. So for a parent to only offer less than minimum wage it is completely absurd in my book. Apparently they think quality childcare is gonna be cheap. Well we professional childcare providers know better and we need to educate parents to understand that. We of course to need to make a living and parents must understand with quality care comes a larger salary requirement.
Unless it is a home day care they are looking for to pay $200/week. If it is only one person watching one child, then they need to pay at least state minimum wage.
As a parent, it hurts to see 40% of your paycheck go to child care. We always seek the cheapest method of having our children taken care of. The parent/client needs to understand that a middle ground must be reached. "I understand that money is tight, but I am worth more than $5 an hour, so I hope I don't upset you by asking for at least XX."
I don't understand that question clear?
I think this is part of the culture we live in. It isn't reasonable to expect to pay that wage to anyone. Period. If that's all they can afford, they might need to look into nanny-share situations. It isn't insensitive to want to be able to live off of the work you do.
I've been in Education field Decade now. You would be highly surprised how many people De-value Kid's education, but support other materialistic ideas like $800 smart phones in elementary school.
What if a family look for someone with NO experience, requires NO housekeeping? You are only required to bring the 9yo to school that is 10 min walking and pick him up. All time in between which is from 7 am to 6 pm and from 9 pm to 7 am you are free to leave or do what you want. Are you seriously thinking I owe you 1k per week for that? Everybody are so experienced and hard workers this times that so difficult to find someone who will agree to accept little but easy money...
The rate of pay for such a short time actually working must still meet minimum wage requirements. At 15 minutes a trip (because, let's face it, that 10 minutes isn't always so short), that's 30 minutes a day and 2.5 hours a week. Minimum wage (required by law) would be about $20/week, but you also have to consider that the "easy money" you referred to also prevents the nanny from taking other paying jobs in the same time frame. I would expect no less than $50/week for a similar position. Any less is an insult to the value of a caregiver's time.
Right ? Im going through the same struggle.
I have noticed the same thing. I have many years experience under my belt. I do a lot for the families. I simply laugh at families like that. I understand times are rough but if you cant afford minimum wage ($10 and hours for ca) then you cant afford child care in your home with extra benefits. Or you simply cant afford to have a child. I feel rude asking up front what the pay is but I have wasted many emails, hours on phone interviews, gas and time out of my way just to be told id be paid slave wage. I'm sorry, no matter how much I enjoy your children and home. I have a certain pay i need to live on. I am a career nanny and am 25. Not just some teenager looking for extra cash.
I think parents think we as caregivers live off of less than $5 an hour because they might not have enough money to pay for a babysitter for $10 an hour. I also turn down people who say they can only pay $7 dollars an hour. The parents who want people to babysit need to understand that they should be affording stuff they should be able to pay for. I agree with you that they need to look for family because that would be free babysitting. If they state in the post that they will only give this amount then I would totally understand. But, if they are posting saying $10-$15 then that is reasonable. It also depends how many children they have. They can have 2 children and pay like $10 an hour. I feel you should need to pay anywhere from $12 to $15.
maybe ask about pay from the beginning?
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